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YCs that own keelboats: Who's got 'em?
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Jan 7, 2006, 10:27 PM

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Peter Commette's letter in Issue 2003 reminded me of something awhile back in Scuttlebutt about how great it would be for San Diego YC to have a fleet of keelboats for member use, and how other clubs have them, which has enabled team racing.

I was curious what clubs have fleets of keelboats for member use.


TsunamiMike
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Jan 9, 2006, 5:58 AM

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Columbia in Chicago has a couple J22's that they rent to members after they have taken the Keelboat Certification course. Adult classes get priority, but I had no issues getting a boat last year.


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Jan 9, 2006, 5:02 PM

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Our "sailing club" has a fleet of keelboats. It is known as Castle Harbor and is part of a commercial sailing school located in Coral Gables, FL. We have an active membership that meets every Saturday morning for buoy racing.
This has been a regular activity for our membership and guests ( general public may participate) for almost twenty years. We like it fine. Socializing with our fellow sailors, skill building and a little lie telling go a long way to making the sport FUN. Our regular skippers probably get 50 starts or more per year. The fleet is well maintained and the boats are evenly matched.


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Jan 9, 2006, 5:58 PM

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Our club and a number of others in Long Island Sound (four or five?) own fleets of Ideal 18's. By subscribing to a "time-share fee" type arrangement, club members can take them out for team racing, fleet racing, sailing lessons, or simple family outings. The fee - $300 to $400/yr allows young families which could not otherwise afford a boat to have access to the water and a good program of events to develop their sailing skills further. A certain number of non-members are allowed to subscribe for a limited time before becoming full members. This provides a steady cadre of new member candidates for the club as well as giving us the opportunity to see how prospective members behave on the water BEFORE they join. Our fleet (now up to 8 boats, I believe) is self-sustaining - the initial capital investment has been paid back, and all boats replaced (new) since the program began. Sails are also replaced on a rotating schedule, as needed. I suspect the other clubs have a similar situation. Talk to Skip Shumway, in Rochester, who handles Ideal 18 sales, about how this works.


RC
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Jan 10, 2006, 3:20 PM

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New York Yacht Club has a fleet of Sonars in Newport, RI used strictly for team racing.

They apparently have been a big boost to the club's ability to attract younger members.


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Jan 12, 2006, 11:52 AM

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Ideal 18's seem to be the club-owned fleet of choice for Long Island sound. Easy to use, small enough to be conveniently managed, multi-purpose from rec to racing, and inexpensive enough to afford a fleet, etc.


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Jan 12, 2006, 12:03 PM

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Coronado Yacht Club has two Victory 21 boats used in their Adult Learn-to-Sail program. The boats are also available to members (after a checkout by our ASA-Certified instructors) for a small charter fee ($10 per month).
--Steve Greatrex
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Coronado, California


Atilla The Hun
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Jan 13, 2006, 6:01 AM

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San Francisco Yacht Club, has (had) 2 j24's, and a Cal 20


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Jan 13, 2006, 7:50 AM

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PaulK talks about the Ideal 18 at Clubs on Long Island Sound. Actually, the clubs that have Ideals number more than 10, with an average of probably 6-8 boats per club. The Ideal is a Bruce Kirby designed 18' keelboat. Our club uses them as Paulk describes, has local racing, and has developed an excellent women's program, with instruction by women, for those women who want to sail but may have been turned off in other settings. Great boat, easily maintained, durable and fun.Smile


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Jan 26, 2006, 6:32 PM

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St. Pete YC has a fleet of Sonars. There are some clubs in the Boston area with club fleets (Rhodes 19's, soilings). Also, several colleges have keelboat fleets (Navy, MIT, Coast Guard, KP, etc.).

As mentined above, NYYC has had a fleet of Sonars in Newport (primarily used for team racing, with some use for match racing) for several years. These boats have been used in events ranging from "introduction to team racing clinics for members", to intermediate level one day team race invites, to team racing championhips. NYYC was able to use these boats to get older members interested in team racing and to get younger people psyched about joining the club so they could join in the fun. Other clubs have seen how successful this process was at NYYC, and I belive this is behind a number of clubs elsewhere getting their own fleets (the Ideal 18 fleets mentioned above at numerous clubs all over LIS, the Sonar fleet at Seawanacca (they use it for TR'ing as well as fleet racing), Ida Lewis renting J-22's from Sail Newport for their own club team racing events, etc.) These fleets are being used for both "masters" and "open" team racing events, typically without spinnakers (it keeps the racing closer), which are very popular right now in the northeast. This year numerous teams sailed Ideal 18's in the Hinman Masters alongside the Hinman (sailed in V-15's) at Larchmont YC (amazing event), and everyone came away from the event psyched to do more.

Anyone interested in hearing more about the use of club keelboat fleets and team racing and how both have been used to reinvigerate YC sailing activities should take a look at the report from the 1st Team Racing Summit held at NYYC last year. A link to the report is on this page: http://www.ussailing.com/...c/TeamRacingNews.htm

Full disclosure: I am a NYYC member and chair of the US Sailing Team Racing Committee, so I obviously am a BIG fan of team racing.


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