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What does the next America's Cup boat need?
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Mar 22, 2010, 10:22 AM

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The Louis Vuitton Trophy event in Auckland, New Zealand (March 9-21, 2010) provided a proper opportunity to flush all the foul memories of the 33rd America’s Cup, and offer eight professional teams the chance to get back on the water and show how riveting it can be to match race hugely powerful boats.

At Scuttlebutt World Headquarters, we received over 300 images from four elite photographers in attendance. After editing the images for the event gallery, some observations were made about the America’s Cup Class Version 5 boat that makes them visually appealing:

* Grinders: Motors are boring.
* Big headsails: Blade jibs are boring.
* Spinnaker poles: Sprit poles are boring.
* Crew limits: Too many crew doing not enough is boring.
* Slab side hull, deep floor layout: Crew snug inside hull looks cool.

The 34th America’s Cup will introduce a new boat design, as the consensus among the stakeholders is that the 18 year old ACC rule is no longer relevant, and how a more modern boat with greater performance is needed for the event.

Okay, but onboard action and drama are vital too. Look at the photos from Auckland and then consider what features next type of boat needs.

Event photos: http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/photos/10/0322/

Do you agree or disagree with the comments above? What else is needed?

- Craig Leweck, Scuttlebutt




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Mar 22, 2010, 10:31 PM

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I have been following the Cup since 1962 (Good Ol Weatherly!).Cool
I agree with everything in the initial post!
The Romantic in me would like to see the 34th sailed in J Boats.
If not that some LARGE, MonoHulled, with Human Grinders will do nicely!!

JimT


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Mar 23, 2010, 6:02 AM

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The Deed rules that the AC is a race for a defender to use its best technology to create the fastest possible sailboat to defend the cup against a challenger on a best of 3 set courses, if the current defender chooses to use a style of sailing vessel EG. monohull, that is not fast by any means nor powerfull compared to a current AC multihull he shall then be in contempt of the deed and shall surrender it to a challenger whom has the right to challenge for the cup, or face annihilation by a far superior style of sailboat, or if he creates a box rule and is able to force a monohull style sailing vessel, then it is also up to him to use whatever technology is available to create the fastest possible monohull sailing vessel, as it is the challengers right to do also, realize the box rule will still allow the challenger to create a supermaxi, foiling, out of water swing keel, winged sail monohull etc. etc. Either way the next AC will NOT be sailed in traditional monohull style sailboats, there is no going back to a match racing style event in monohulls, as the Deed is quite clear that this is not a LV style match race, so look forward to way out outrageous monohulls or even more awsome MULTIHULLS in the next AC
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Mar 23, 2010, 6:56 AM

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I don't recall who the Challenger of Record (COR) was after San Diego YC won the 1988 America's Cup, but it was after that Deed of Gift match that the Defender, COR, and an assembly of stakeholders gathered to create the ACC rule that replaced the 12 meter rule. I suspect something similar will happen again now to determine the design rule for the 34th Match.

At some point it has also become standard practice for the Defender to choose a team they can work with, and offer them the position of COR. As we were constantly reminded during the lead up for the 33rd ACUP, modifying the Deed by mutual consent is a lot easier when you have two parites that can work together.

With mutual consent, nearly anything is possible. However, the COR is representing a very diverse group, and most do not have the deep pockets of the Defender. I believe everyone wants the boat to be unique, high performance, and technically extreme, but there is also significant interest in growing the event. Insuring that the event has a lot of challenging teams, and that there is a large viewing audience, are high priorities too. Having a boat design even remotely as extreme as the multihulls in the 33rd Match will not achieve all these goals.

Whatever design rule is created, the first cycle will produce the most diverse group of boats. Odds are, deep pockets will still have an edge. During the first year of the ACC rule, Bill Koch's A3 team won in '92 with a huge budget, and it took five cycles of the ACC rule before performance parity was on the race course.

What will be unique about the 34th Match is that the anticipation of who "got it right" in the design game will be revealed during the pre-events that are said to be part of the build-up toward the America's Cup, and not on the first day when the Defender and Challenger face each other. In '92, Bill Koch himself drove his much faster boat to beat Paul Cayard and the Il Moro di Venezia team in 4 of 5 races during the 28th Match.

It would seen that the design rule and venue will be connected, particularly if windy San Francisco is an option. As for the timeline, it was in Scuttlebutt 3047 when Defender spokesman Tom Ehman said, “SNG/Alinghi won the 2003 Cup at Auckland in March and announced Valencia as the subsequent venue in late November 2003. We, too, hope to have the next venue, etc., sorted by November if not before.”




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Mar 23, 2010, 7:49 AM

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I dont believe for an instant thet the current defender of the cup will forego his huge advantage that he has currently got and surrender this advantage to promote the goals that you present, quote > insuring that the event has a lot of challenging teams...Surely this would only play into the challenger`s hands and im sure that the current defender will act truly in the spirit of the deed and not to allow his odds of keeping the AC which by the way he invested how much? Both his money and time, to slip into another challengers grip! The current defender will do what it takes to keep the cup and has already proven, that the defender`s concern as to the audience has already been shown. Cup comes first! Your goals as you put them have already been wrong! AC33 proved this, why would the current defender about face and give it all away just to apease you and your fellow believers after spending millions. I guess we will have to wait and see but at this point i cant see the AC being developed into yet another LV style event as you are aware that is not what the AC race is about! It has been steadily developing as a technoligy race and will continue to do so.
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Mar 25, 2010, 12:18 PM

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I would like to second the J class suggestion. There are currently 10 boats sailing. There will be a series of races this year featuring these boats. It takes 30 men to race one. A Louis Vuitton series with these boats would be spectacular. With 10,000 SF of sail, and 200 tons, doing 16 knots, there will be excitement! and a reasonable TV subject. Imagine these boats close tacking where spectaors can view the action. There could even be fleet racing to stir the excitement.

Various countries could charter the boats, and others could build their own. The cost is high, but would not be unreasonable compared with past endeavors.


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Mar 25, 2010, 6:10 PM

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From David Kippen, London, England:
Thanks for your interview with Larry Ellison regarding AC34 (in Scuttlebutt 3055). I am glad to see that he is taking the high road and grasps what the Cup series means for the future of sport. A successful cup will be an important step to reinvigorating sailing worldwide. It can and should be the Super Bowl and/or Stanley Cup finally to a global circuit based on the Formula One event planning and marketing model. Further, it is indeed possible to lower capital costs and amortize those costs over more sponsored events.

To achieve an exciting and inspirational event, I am a strong believer that the next Cup should be in monohulls, possibly along the lines of Judel Vroljik design (or Dan Meyer's latest Numbers, J/V 66) for one of Ernesto's passes at looking like he wanted an inclusive race. Ernesto's silliness notwithstanding, the JV design (or something like it) is a great concept and would provide some exhilarating racing and visuals when surfing with asym chute in 25-30 knots on SF Bay. The boats could have multiple uses (i.e. inshore, offshore distance races etc..) and become the gold standard for the growth of a global grand prix racing circuit a la F-1. More important, the tactical intensity of tacking duals, etc. so key to exciting match racing, cannot be matched in multi hulls. Well done Larry! Please do it in high performance monohulls under 80 feet.



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Mar 26, 2010, 9:08 AM

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Why would the defender give up the edge, you ask. The answer is a bit deeper than just winning the Cup itself. There is a significantly greater role in the history to be had if one can not only win, as many have, but also post an imprimiture on the Cup for decades to come by renewing its status as an international premiere sporting event. To create a 'modern Cup' and restore the breadth of competing nations achieved only in recent matches would be an achievement far beyond the simple winning. I believe this defender understands that deeper goal and aspires to it, and, further, would prefer another win that is not sullied by all the sideshows that stained the 34th.Laugh

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Mar 27, 2010, 7:55 PM

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I agree, John. Compared with the mess of 34, a cooperative competition popular with sailors and the public alike would so contrast with AC 33 that it would, win or loose, make heroes of those that plan and execute it.

With that said, there is no way a monohull can deliver the kind of America's Cup match that a multi can. I think the Extreme 40's are a good indication of what is possible. They are dirt cheap and closely matched. No one who has sailed one or seen them sail can argue with the speed and excitement they deliver. The arguments about expense and close sailing in a multi are quite simply; wrong. Those arguments are most often presented by those that have never raced a high performance multi. I, by no means, suggest an America's cup match be sailed in E-40's. The AC tradition and indeed the Deed of Gift itself has an element of technological competition that complements sailing skills. Man powered 60 foot boats with a hard mast of a max height, soft sail, max draft and min weight can be built for far less than an IACC boat. Plug all the weird design stuff like changing hull shape and movable ballast and they would be very close in performance but still with room for innovation. Participation would be up. Most any country would have several entities that could build and enter a boat. Make the course short with many legs and the poor maneuverability oft attributed to multi's would be designed out of the boats. A boat at 12 kts will still out maneuver a boat at 25 kts but it isn't as exciting. Imagine NASCAR at half speed. I love the IACC match racing but when I show it to my non sailing friends, their eyes glaze over or they show some modicum of curiosity by having me explain rules and tactics. When I show them E-40 racing or take them sailing on a beach cat; it's a different story. Additionally the shallow draft of multi's would open up considerably more of the Bay if AC 34 is contested in San Francisco.

The Deed's "friendly competition between nations", is a tougher nut to crack but I think what has happened to the AC and LV racing is not so bad. Take the latest LV winners, for example. Emirates "Airline" coughs up the money and Kiwis build and sail the boat. The flag is NZ and the ad is Emirates Airlines. Kiwis root for the boat and crew but even if the United Arab Emirates has no national entry; there is a reason to be at least interested in the boat. Constructed in country could and likely should be agreed out, opening the doors for even mass constructed boats built to the sponsor/country specs but not necessary in the country. Lots of participation. As to the crews, a lot of the current rock stars would likely be out of luck with a quantum jump in boat performance and participation, and a decrease in cost. They would likely still be important but many in a management and training role rather than sailing. I think the field would be leveled considerably and, in the end there would be many more rock stars made regardless of nationality. The variation in nationality would probably even generate more interest in the event. If there were a South African on an American boat with no other SA participation it would give the South Africans at least some interest in the event.

Mr Ellison seems to have caught considerable flack about wanting to appeal to teens. I think he was just trying to emphasize that the level of speed, excitement and maybe even risk of the IACC boats is not going to get the interest of the next generation of sailors. Like it or not, that interest is critical to the future of competitive sailing. The rest can't be ignored but it's an important consideration. No one can argue with Mr Ellison's expressing the need for better media coverage even to the point of being built into the boat.

I think the multi excitement of AC 34 is waning but if multis are not given worthwhile consideration; it would surely be shortsighted and, in my opinion, a mistake. I would also love to see J boats in Newport but remember how many sailors it takes to change a light bulb.
Check Six .......Mal




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Question to ask is did anyone pay attention to the boring monohull racing in Auckland? Did it show up any where in any newspaper sports page? On ESPN? Sailing in last centuries slow monohulls is just not going to do it after the big multihulls showed what America's Cup used to be about and what it should be about.

Hopefully Ellison, Coutts, Spithall, Butterworth et al will remember their comments about how great it was racing in the fastest boats on the planet and they need for a game changer for sailing.


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Mar 28, 2010, 11:34 PM

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Monomuncher

You misunderstand the role of the Deed of gift.
It only applies as protocol of last resort, to be invoked where the challenger and defender cannot agree on a protocol.
The only Deed of gift races in our lifetime have been the fiasco in 1988 and the latest contest.


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Mar 28, 2010, 11:51 PM

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You ask "did anyone pay attention to the boring monohull racing in Auckland?"

No, because there wasn't any boring racing. It was gripping. Lots of attention got paid to it.
What's more, the participants were extremely unbored by the racing, which also helps.

If you are going to use mainstream media coverage (especially in the US) as a barometer of what is boring, that's a pretty good measure, but you are reading the dial the wrong way round.



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Andrew's post and Eagles' post are good examples of the two ends of the spectrum. I suspect that their respective, sailing at least, backgrounds would provide a basis for the two opinions and I agree with both despite their being diametrically opposed. The thread is about what the America's Cup needs. The AC has always had a tech component and therefore, within whatever rule was chosen, been at the leading edge of technology. If that leading edge is to be maintained; the displacement hull rule, while the great equalizer, needs to be breached. A planing hull will do it down wind and has been suggested; but I think the only choice up wind is going to be a multihull. The two recent DoG matches were proof of that.

Those that understand the racing rules of sailing and have match raced loved the LVC racing in Auckland. To those that didn't, it was more like checkers players watching a chess match. On the other hand anybody can watch an 18 foot skiff race with interest. In a breeze, it's a continuous train wreck. The next America's Cup boat needs to incorporate a bit of that sort of excitement into the mix while maintaining as much of the basic principles of the Deed as possible.

I personally either want J boats in Newport or Larry and Ernesto on A Cats in lake Geneva......Pirate
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Sponsors, cities being asked for million$ in support, the general public, even the constantly lamented, ever decreasing sailing public paid no attention to the Auckland "America's Cup" preview. Even on Scuttlebutt Sailing Forum it was small news, five comments...ho hum. America's Cup is sailing's only truly public event because people associate it with what we saw in the 33rd race and what the America's Cup was originally about, a race of the biggest, fastest sailboats by the best sailors.

Play the tapes of Ellision, Coutts, Butterworth, Spitall on how a real America's Cup race in the biggest, fastest sailing boats by the best sailors opened their eyes to the need to keep the America's Cup to that original purpose, Ellison on the need to attract a new audience to sailing, to attract young people to sailing, to attract sponsors and public support for sailing, on the sheer excitement of sailing the biggest fastest boats that technology can produce which is what the original America was in its day, purpose built to beat any other yacht in any race.

That's what built the America's Cup reputation and status, no limits, build the fastest boat you can and give it a go. People still spend millions restoring the resulting J-boats, still make a buck selling the old pics, no one does that with boring 12-meters or any subsequent America's Cup boats.

If Ellison et al go by what they said at the end of the 33rd America's Cup, we'll have exciting racing in SF Bay in 60 foot, no limits, fastest boats technology can build (aka multihulls) that will capture the pubic imagination and be a real America's Cup Race.


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Craig
You asked for agreement or disagreement with your comments, which this thread has so far been short on.

Firstly

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the consensus among the stakeholders is .... a more modern boat with greater performance is needed for the event. "

That's an interesting assertion, and I guess it depends who you count as stakeholders, and what weighting you apply. Does the guy who grinds, calls tactics or works the traveller count?

After all, they don't put up money, like sponsors.

Nor, un
like the mass-market TV audience, do they persist in buying things they don't need with money they don't have on the basis of whatever advert happened to fly most recently in through the narrow window of their concentration span.

Sponsors and their prey, ie couch potatoes and kids*, seem to be the stakeholders to whose tune the Bertarellis and Ellisons of this world seem keenest to dance.

Do the deep-dyed fans count? The ones who understand just what an incredible piece of drama a dial-up in a breeze in IACC boats represents, who realise that the longer it lasts the more dramatic it becomes - combining elements of arm wrestling, balancing a team on a loose, slippery high-wire, and a face-to-face gunfight? A few of these people will have helmed such a boat through a tack or helped grind in a headsail after such a tack (which anyone who can afford an air ticket and a modest day-sail fee can do).

Of course they don't count, any more than the AC sailors do. You'd think these two groups were the key stakeholders; the core performers, and the core audience ... but clearly not. "Progress" apparently requires that we abandon those who support us in favour of those who do not.

We've probably seen the best era of America's Cup competition, because increasingly, the people who are being invited to call the shots are people who don't care and don't matter. What makes it worse is that Ellison et al have forgotten that adulthood is a time to leave childhood behind and venture into the realms of complexity, nuance and compromise.

Choosing a design rule by raw speed makes about as much sense as choosing a rock group on decibels produced, or a chicken Vindaloo by the number of taste buds (or lives!) it has claimed. Those who simply equate speed to excitement are showing about as much maturity as I was last time I applied these criteria.

Getting back to the head of this thread:
"Okay, but onboard action and drama are vital too."

You said it, you nailed it, but no-one on this thread, apart from the first respondent, seems to get it. No-one has responded to your list. Once again the conversation is all about performance, as measured in knots. (Or 'knots per hour', for 60% of the target audience being fought over. Another 35% wouldn't even recognise that - they'd think they were being invited to watch cub scouts rearrange
string against the clock.)

Anyone remember the footage from the Twelves off Fremantle? You couldn't ask for slower boats. There are people who could practically swim to the windward mark faster than these boats in some conditions. Yet you would be hard pressed to find a LESS boring spectacle.

In case someone who is independently wealthy AND a grown-up wins the AmCup before I die, I am going to respond to
Craig's invitation to add a few items to his excellent list.

* Obviously Louis Vuitton have a different quarry they're mining from, and they've also got Bruno, who is clearly a grown-up on matters pertaining to sailing.

6. Polar diagrams which don't become too funky out towards the corners of the rule, so races are not determined by random variability of weather conditions. This alone probably rules out multis.
7. Manoeuvrability, and enough heft to be able to mix it up at close quarters without cancelling too many contests, combined with enough fragility to make the stakes 'interesting' to the participants
8. Structural reliability, and broad enough bands of permissible wind and seastate. Races should be able to be held on most days in most venues, stability of direction being the main criterion
9. The boats need to be difficult to sail well, there should be lots of different jobs to do (putting a premium on teamwork and leadership), and they should be rewarding. The guys who REALLY need to find it fascinating are the sailors; if they're bored, we're going to be bored. If they're post-pubescent and at the top of the sailing game, they're going to need more than 'knots per hour' to engage their interest over a long campaign.
10. The boats should preferably lean over quite freely - this is a tangible manifestation of their power source, helping to make subtle variations visible to those who aren't lucky enough to be on the spot. It also adds interest in close combat situations - aerial swordfights and all that.
11. Draft should not be ridiculously deep - too limiting on venues, too tough on spectators and schedules. Beam should not be too wide (relates to point 9 considerations also)

If the sailors -- and I'm not talking about the 'look at me' celebrity sailors, whose primary focus is on their personal profile, but the rank and file -- say the IACC should be discarded, I would find that extremely persuasive.

If they say it should be tweaked, that would surprise me less and please me more.

Even without tweaking, the IACC rule satisfies all Craig's points and most of mine too. What are the chances of getting it so right with another shake of the dice?
Andrew Troup


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To quote Larry Ellison:

And it's got to be a great experience for viewers. It's got to be something kids want to watch. Quite frankly when I'm watching the Olympics I watch downhill racing. My kids watch the snowboarders. Okay. We've got to pay attention to that. I kind of like monohulls. All my racing experience is on monohulls. But if what the kids want to watch is multihulls because it's more exciting, we'll go multihulls. We've got to make this a great sport from the point of view of the participant, especially the kid who's just getting into the sport, and from the point of view of the viewer on television.


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To quote a post in this thread
"Ellison et al have forgotten that adulthood is a time to leave childhood behind"

God save us from a world where the fickle and solipsistic attention spans of 15 year olds get deferred to and pandered to by people who frankly should have a few clews (sic) by now.

In a world where snowboarding was the mainstream, adult form, 15 year olds wouldn't be interested in watching (or doing) boring snowboarding with their parents. They'd want something "higher performance" and more edgy, like, say..... Downhill racing !!!!

Teen culture is a mirage, which vanishes somewhere else when you try to grasp it or mainstream it.
What's more, that's the way it should be, and adults should stop trying to pander to, suck up to and profit from kids and get on with the adult work of shaping the world according to their future needs rather than their present whims. That's my take on it, in any case.



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Quoting yourself as a "source" is pretty lame.

"God save us from a world where the fickle and solipsistic attention spans of 15 year old..."

Child is father to man. Sailing is dying as a sport because it has no "fickle 15 year olds", too many dyspeptic "adults" hollering about damn kids on the yacht club lawn no doubt.

Fortunately Ellison has kids and sees it clearly. I'll stick to quoting the guy who just won the America's Cup in the most advanced, fastest boat, just like America did in 1851.






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You both continue to overstate your points. I suppose that is the way of most discussions. There is a compromise to be had but since it takes three sailors to change the light bulb and two are commenting on how good the old one was this will seem only to answer Andrew.

The close in pre start dogfighting is exciting to the core sailor and the unwashed masses as well. Just because the boat performs well doesn't mean this doesn't happen. It happened in AC-33. Do grinders, tacticians and trimmers loose their jobs or their importance if the boats are fast and don't lean? There is very little or no sacrifice in catering to the less astute sailors or the unwashed masses using speed. In fact; the excitement shown by the sailors in 33 was quite evident. I have flown and paid to experience the IACC boat. While helming and grinding did indeed add to my enjoyment of the LVT; it really wowed me to think of doing it with USA 17. In fact one day I watched USA 17 while sailing the tired IACC boat. Remove the motors from the cat or the tri and grinding an IACC boat would be child's play in comparison. Helming it would obviously be a hoot.

How many "couch potatoes and kids" buy an Audi or a Bimmer or fly Emirates for that matter? Not only is your description of them rather elitist; I think you may be selling the target audience a little short.

Andrew, you keep criticizing the boat is being "picked" based on pure speed. The boat will be picked, hopefully, based on the rule, the course and the venue and, most importantly; to win the Cup. Taken to the extreme; design the course right and a Star could beat USA 17.

You say we are "abandoning" the core and those that matter. In fact those that can afford to participate, like it or not, matter the most. If anything, that could be the multi's downfall for most of them are still a little stuck in the mono hull tradition. The nuances and complexities aren't gone they are just risen to a higher level. The ones, if any, that are being abandoned are those just unwilling to even imagine much less go to the next level (pun intended). To equate an increase in performance to some teen X game is grossly underestimating what is possible.

"Have seen the best era of AC sailing"!? I remember that kind of talk when the boats were no longer wood. Wasn't it DC that was protesting the NZ "plastic" boat.

When you talk of folks equating speed to excitement, you are correct. If you sacrifice nothing else, and I don't think you have to, fast is more exciting than slow to participants and observers alike.

Concerning the first 5 characteristics; blade jibs and bow sprits go with speed. The only other one of the initial 5 suggestions that a properly designed multi won't meet as well or better is the "crew looking cool inside a snug hull". I suspect the 60 foot sprint at a tack or jibe will nicely compensate. All of your specific suggestions can easily be met with a quantum leap in performance. In specific response to your list:

6. If the polars are well matched the randomness of weather day to day will affect the boats the same. Randomness over the course becomes less important as the course shortens or the cover is tight. It's part of the game. Multis can easily be closely matched. A planing mono has the funky polars and should be feared to run away in variable conditions because of the huge and sudden jump in performance when only one boat is just able to climb over its bow wave and plane.

7. Maneuverability certainly was restricted in AC-33 but there was no perception that it was needed. Again, shorten the course and maneuverability and the resulting mixing it up will result. Don't confuse 33 with what maneuverability is possible in a multi. I don't even think a tacking dual, rare in the LV, is out of the question.

8. Again I think you are being overly influenced by AC 33. The racing rules of sailing say that the decision to race is squarely on the shoulders of the skipper. Mono or multi must be designed to the venue. A multi can be every bit as robust or fragile as a mono. Around the world in min time has taken more than one hull for some time.

9. Here you can be influenced by 33. The boats had some of the best available as crew and were sailed pitifully, both of them. Obviously a multi is difficult to sail if 33 is to be considered. The boats had a crew of what? 9 to 12. It would take likely 5 to 8 grinders to replace the motors. They would certainly have more than just speed. Speed would just be the icing on the cake. Spithill said his greatest regret was that he wouldn't be sailing the beast any more. 26 kts 30 feet above the water. Boring?!

10. I'm not sure what leaning over adds to the mix but if you're looking for visual excitement, tangible evidence is there in the speed. I think the possibility of one multi flying a hull over the other boat will quite nicely replace the "areal sward fight" of leaning lead haulers. Hull flying multis heel quite a bit anyway.

11. Multis obviously don't need the draft of a mono for righting moment and really shine here. I think you just threw in the beam to help rule out a multi; it just doesn't apply when comparing one hull to two. Even the point of shore room and transport can be controlled with a mandatory folding system. Talk of spin off benefits to other types of sailing. Their stability on the hard and no draft with boards retracted would also be of great convenience in the village.

The Cup has been at the leading edge of racing since 1851. The catharsis of the DoG match of 1988 resulted in a leap to the IACC. 33 can (and will) do the same. It doesn't have to be a roll of the dice in order to get it right. The match won't take place for four plus years; plenty of time to negotiate, compromise, build, test and race; even tweak. The rock stars have spoken even if they are starting to waffle a bit. The rank and file will, in my opinion, not only come around but will revel in a leap up from the monos of 32 to some compromise between that and 33. The speed and hull flying will generate interest in a new generation of sailors at a time when energy cost and pollution considerations would welcome their transition from stink pots big and small. A multi is the best way, maybe the only way, to accomplish that leap.
Check Six .......Mal




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