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ISAF fee for 30th America's Cup
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Sep 25, 2009, 10:46 AM

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A letter published in Sail-World by former ISAF President Paul Henderson regarding the ISAF fee for the 30th America's Cup in 2000 prompted this response by Alan Sefton, Executive Director, Team New Zealand, 1995-2000:


Dear Sir

The Pope (the one who lives in Rome, that is) might not be fallible, but the memory of his Canadian namesake - Paul Henderson - obviously is.

The October 1998 meeting to which he refers in his note in fact took place at the behest of the Defender (Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron), the Challenger of Record (New York Yacht Club) and their respective event organizations (AC2000 Ltd and ACCA Ltd).

It was necessitated by ISAF threatening to not sanction the 2000 America’s Cup and its attendant Louis Vuitton Cup challenger eliminations unless we handed over an event fee of $US900,000.

We travelled to Southampton with some urgency to make it clear to ISAF that it had no jurisdiction over the America’s Cup, including the Challenger selection series (the Louis Vuitton Cup).

We did, however, want use ISAF’s racing rules, along with ISAF-qualified international jurors, race officials and on-the-water umpires, for which we were more than willing to negotiate an appropriate fee.

“The Pope” did not take kindly to our position (that ISAF had no jurisdiction) and spent much of the morning session attempting to bully us into submission.

Sir Peter Blake, sat opposite “The Pope”, said little (as was his wont) during the uncomfortable confrontation until, just before noon, he quietly asked “The Pope” why he was being so aggressive.

“The Pope” was taken completely aback and the meeting was adjourned until after lunch when ISAF (and, particularly, “The Pope”) adopted a more reasonable approach and the grounds were laid for an agreement under which a fee would be paid to ISAF for using its officials. That fee was considerably less than the event fee that ISAF originally sought, and was paid without any compromise of our original position (that ISAF had no jurisdiction over the America’s Cup).

As for the alleged spinnaker pole incident in San Diego – it never happened. NZL32 had picked up her tow and was, quite typically, cleared away before Bruno Trouble and Boll Koch arrived alongside in their rubber ducks with celebratory champagne. Anyway, a new spinnaker pole for NZL32 in those days cost around $NZ10,000 – which hardly equates with ISAF’s demand for $US900,000.

And, as for Peter Blake putting his arm around “The Pope” and walking out for a conciliatory beer - in your dreams, and more evidence that the Canadian Pope’s memory is indeed fallible. In the context of this correspondence, I’ll put that in the same drawer as The Pope’s statement that “ISAF is the World Governing Body that can bring 'Fair Play and Integrity' which sponsors demand”.


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Sep 27, 2009, 11:53 AM

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This reply was published in Scuttlebutt Europe:

* From Paul Henderson: Mr.Sefton has a very selective memory.

He and his Kiwis lawyers were very difficult to deal with but thanks to the Commodore James of the NYYC a sensible discussion and resolve of the issues took place.

It started rather tense and ended up in a very acceptable solution.

ISAF had worked amicably with the NYYC on the AC for decades.

The AC in 1988. led by the Kiwis, Aussies and Danes, offered 10% of all adveritizing on all boats if ISAF would allow on the boat advertising.

It was the AC inititiative and a formal agreement reached.

ISAF asked for $2 million (Not $900,000), much below 10%, in hopes of settling for 50%. RNZYS offered $10,000 Kiwi. A rather large gap in fact an insult. I have kept the original letter from RNZYS if required.

Kiwis wanted all ISAF services for basically nothing with nothing put back into the sport that the sailors all used to get to the AC. I stridently opposed the AC not living up to their responsibilities. The NZYA supported ISAF 100% not the position of RNZYS.

ISAF demanded a meeting in Southampton and Sefton wanted Auckland .

It was held in Southampton.

NYYC Commodore James came back after lunch and offered $1 million plus respect for ISAF being the World Governing Body. ISAF accepted immediately with 50 % going to the MNA's with entries plus ISAF endorsing all Judges.

Blake and I did walk out for a beer together and Sefton was left behind.

Sefton always challenged ISAF's position as the World Governing Body of Sailing which is agreed to by over 120 Countries in the World including New Zealand.

The threat was similar to all sports: "If a maverick organization wants to compete outside of the World Governing Body then they can but they give up their rights to compete or adjudicate in the traditional events including any event sanctioned by a Member Country or Int. Classes or the Olympics. All officials automatically go against their commitment and are decertified."

This is not a unique position as many sports such as Golf, Athletic and Football etc have had the same confrontations. It is the choice of the sailors and officials what arena they want to play in. Hopefully they will choose to compete under the protective wing of ISAF. As ISAF President I obviously did not and do not agree with Mr Sefton who I thought had returned to his original position as a Football journalist.

I am still sailing in Toronto.





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