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Nov 15, 2010, 1:31 PM

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(November 14, 2010) - The International Sailing Federation (ISAF) concluded their annual meeting in Athens, Greece today. Among other things, the Council voted in favour of the Events Committee's provisional events slate for the 2016 Olympic Sailing Competition of:

One person board or kite board men - equipment to be determined
One person dinghy men - Laser Standard
One person dinghy men - Finn
Two person dinghy (skiff) men - 49er

One person board or kite board women - equipment to be determined
One person dinghy women - Laser Radial
Two person dinghy (skiff) women - equipment to be determined
Three person keelboat women - Elliott 6m (match or fleet race not decided)

Two person mixed multihull - equipment to be determined
Two person mixed dinghy with spinnaker - 470

This is a provisional list of events and subject to final confirmation in the ISAF May 2011 mid-year meeting. Comparing this list to the current slate of 2012 Olympic events, the men’s keelboat (Star) is removed and the two person mixed multihull is added. Other changes include a two person dinghy (skiff) for women rather than the 470, and revising the 470 for men and women to be a mixed class.

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Nov 15, 2010, 1:32 PM

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We surely made a huge step forward at this years ISAF annual conference with regards to kiteboardings participation in the 2016 Olympic Games, however at the moment there are only 2 medals available for 4 possible board sport event which up till now only allow for a limited number of choices...
- both parties could fight it out in a policy of non-cooperation, which may succeed in the short term but may well come back and bite one later
- the board sports community comes up with a creative solution and helps ISAF out of the self-created dilemma

ISAF council accepted - probably for the first time - the recommendation of its specialists committee and decided provisionally on a slate of events for the 2016 Olympics.
Following the explanations of the Events Committee as well of the Olympic Commission, listing 2 "Board" events for 2016 could mean either the one or the other - or a combination of both.
While setting two of the most attractive events against each other still doesnt look very wise in respect of the requirements of the International Olympic Committees Programme Commission, it is now up to us to "make a plan".

So what does this actually mean... ?

Windsurfing is about to lose its permanent ticket in the Summer Olympic Games
OR
Kiteboarding is closer than ever to securing an inaugural place in the Olympics.

The first question that we should ask ourselves is wether we should allow ISAF to pitch the two board sports communities against each other, or if we are able to find a solution that allows both sports to keep its integrity while allowing both participation in the Games.
Surely the best thing would be to get ISAF to get another set of medals from the IOC, but as long as that has not happened it is up to us to work on where we want to be not only in 2016, but in the long term.

Kiteboarding is a new and exciting discipline in the world od sailing. ISAF and the IOC have recognized that.

This correspondent can only urge that the ISAF does all in it's power to ensure that both kiteboarding and windsurfing are showcased on the waters of Rio de Janeiro.


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Nov 15, 2010, 1:34 PM

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From Paul Pascoe, who led the multihull representatives as chairman of the Multihull Commission at ISAF’s Annual Conference in Athens last week.

The following is not an official report from the ISAF Multihull Commission, but an unofficial account including a number of personal opinions on the subject of multihulls and the process of getting them back into the 2016 Olympic Games from one of the "insiders".

As everyone will be aware, the ISAF Council voted 19 - 16 to support the recommendations of the Events Committee for a slate of 10 events for the 2016 Olympic Games, including a mixed multihull. This slate is a recommendation only with the aim to provide direction and allow people to plan further ahead than in previous Olympic cycles. The final decision on events will be made at the May 2011 Mid-year meeting to be held at St Petersburg in Russia. Unfortunately a 19 - 16 vote is not an overwhelming vote of support and it would only require a re-think by 2 Council members to overturn this decision in May, so there is still a lot of work to do between now and May.

So to recap the events that lead to this decision:
Following the vote to drop the multihull in 2007 ISAF decided that a piecemeal approach to event/class selection for the Olympic Games was not in the best interests of the sport and formed the Olympic Commission to provide an overall strategy not just for event selection, but also for World Cup and World Championship events. This Commission generated a lot of interest and with their report submitted last May, people began dissecting their report in great detail. While everyone felt that it was an excellent piece of work, each particular group found one or another piece that disadvantaged their particular self interest.

For the multihull community the recommendation for the re-introduction of a multihull was most welcome, however, one other aspect of the report was the aim to achieve gender equity with equal medals available to men and women. To achieve this, there either needed to be a men's and women's multihull, no multihull, or a mixed multihull with a male/female on each team. With the Commission recommending a single mixed multihull, to achieve gender balance across the ten events there then needed to be another mixed event and the mixed 470 was proposed, effectively pairing it with the multihull.

The Commission also proposed a slate of six core events of men's and women's board/kite, single hander and skiff. Given that everyone was of the opinion that the multihull "must be returned to the Olympics", one has to ask why the multihull was not part of this set of core events, and this remains an unresolved issue.

At the Multihull Commission meeting, the overwhelming view was that we should pursue a separate men's and women's event, but that a mixed multihull was an acceptable though less preferred alternative.

As part of the Olympic Commission report, they also offered up a voting procedure which was followed by the Events Committee who voted in the slate of six core events, and then proceeded to a vote to narrow the remaining six recommended events for the four remaining slots. The encouraging support of 84% of voting members put the multihull in front of the Finn, Star, 470, Women's keelboat and a 2nd women's single hander. At this vote the last two remaining boats were the Finn vs Star with the Finn coming out comfortably in front and the Star being eliminated.

This recommendation then went to the Council which voted 19 - 16 to support the recommendations. This vote is non-binding and the final decision is to be made at the mid-year meeting in May in St Petersburg, Russia. Given that the vote was close, one can expect a significant amount of lobbying in the ensuing months from those who feel that the recommendations do not meet the needs of the sailing community or that their particular interests are not well represented.

So for multihullers the issues/messages out of the meeting are:
• The issue of mixed gender is still undecided. While no-one has put forward any concrete reasons against mixed gender, it is still an issue with unknown consequences. In sailing outside of the Olympics, mixed sailing by choice is extremely common, but enforced mixed gender is not. And the reverse can be said for men's and women's sailing - it is one of the few places where sailing split by gender is enforced and is not almost unheard of in club sailing.

• With mixed gender brings up the issue of "who would be driving". The general consensus was that for a 470, probably the female would drive and the male would be crew, simply based on weight considerations. In the multihull it would be dependent on what boat was chosen.

• With the mixed gender being somewhat divisive, the previous submissions about a 5/5 split of boats has again begun to gain favour in some quarters. This proposal, originally from the US, called for a men's and women's board, single hander, double hander, multihull and keelboat. This has significant advantages with pairings at each level of the sport. However, once you then start looking at specifics, this would mean the removal of either the 470 men and women or the 49er and the women's skiff, as well as pitting the Laser against the Finn. It would also mean changing a lot of classes all in one shot, and changing classes causes major upheavals for sailors, MNAs, etc. In the past, it has been typical to change only one or two classes per cycle.

• The May meeting could see the issue of events again opened up for debate. So for multihullers, the outcomes could be that we end up with a men's and women's multihull, a mixed multihull, or heaven forbid, no multihull.

So while the vote at the Events Committee in Athens is very positive for multihullers, the job is not done yet with 16 Council members effectively saying that they are not happy with the current slate, and we will all have to reconvene again in six months time in St Petersburg to ensure we end up with at least one multihull sailing in the waters off Copacabana beach in 2016.

And finally, a big thank you to all those who attended the meeting and help promote the message of mulithulls.

Members at the Multihull Commission meeting:
Carolijn Brouwer
David Brookes
John Williams

Other multihull supporters at the meetings Darren Bundock, Nahid Gaebler, Olivier Bovyn, Roland Gaebler, Edwin Lodder, Trigonis Konstantinos, Rob White, Mark Pryke, Hugh Styles, Gunnar Larsen, Andrew McPherson, John Ready, Yves Loday, Arnaud Gautier, and Richard Slater.

ISAF Staff Member:
Simon Forbes

And to the offsite crew of Nick Dewhirst, Will Sunnucks and Simon Morgan for all their support and with special congratulations to Simon who also managed to have a son during the meeting.


Thank you

Multihull 2016
http://www.multihull2016.com/
www.facebook.com/multihull2016
www.twitter.com/multihull2016




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Nov 15, 2010, 1:39 PM

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Here are two threads that followed the 2007 decision for the events that would be used at the 2012 Olympics:
http://forum.sailingscuttlebutt.com/...m.cgi?post=4504#4504
http://forum.sailingscuttlebutt.com/...m.cgi?post=5503#5503


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Nov 16, 2010, 3:35 PM

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ISAF Excludes Men's Keelboat for 2016
By Bill Allen , ISCYRA President
Nov 15, 2010, 21:58

At the recent International Sailing Federation Annual Conference in Athens, Council voted to accept a slate of events that does not include a men’s keelboat. In a 19-16 vote, a 10 event slate was tentatively approved encompassing:
• Men’s and women’s sail boards or kite boards
• Men’s and women’s 1-person dinghy
• Men’s and women’s 2-person skiffs
• Mixed 2-person dinghy
• Mixed 2-person multihull
• Men’s heavyweight dinghy
• Women’s keelboat

A final vote to confirm these events will be taken in May, 2011 at the ISAF mid-year meeting. The Laser, Laser Radial, Finn, mixed 470, and Elliott 6m were approved as equipment for their respective events. The remaining equipment (classes) will be selected based on “evaluation trials”.

This slate of events was recommended by the Events Committee, which considered a list of events, including keelboats, developed by the ISAF Olympic Commission. From the discussion during the week in Athens, it was clear that the Olympic Commission and many Council representatives wanted to move toward increasing the number of high speed sport boats for better television and Internet coverage.

The Star class fully supports the ISAF decision-making process and the eventual outcome. We understand and appreciate many of the challenges ISAF faces in making our sport more attractive to the media and we believe the Star can make unique and valuable contributions in this area.

The Class had a strong delegation in Athens to argue the benefits of keelboats as athletic sport boats and their value to media presentation. Star Class Vice Commodore Harry Adler from 2016 Olympic host Brazil, International Vice President Claude Bonanni, Executive Director Barbara Vosbury, Athletes representative Mark Reynolds begin_of_the_skype_highlighting end_of_the_skype_highlighting, and Class measurer John Koopman spent long hours discussing our great class with ISAF attendees.

There are two arguments that seem most compelling. First and foremost, keelboats are where many of the heroes of our sport compete. Star Class champions are among the most recognizable names, and excluding them from Olympic competition is denying the media the established stars of the sport. Second, one of the objectives of the Olympic Commission is to have “diversity of physiques;” yet all of the other boats have very narrow weight ranges. Other than the Finn, all male competitors need to be less than 85 kilos.

Over the next several months we'll continue to work closely with ISAF in a positive and constructive manner as we continue to attempt to convince ISAF Council members that keelboats should be represented in the 2016 Olympic Games. Members are also encouraged to contact their Member National Authority (MNA) officials or ISAF Council members to argue the benefits of including keelboats.

Regardless of the final outcome of the 2016 Olympic event selection process, we will continue to thrive as a class and move forward. The Star is the premier one-design racing keel boat in the world and for 100 years Star sailors have led the way in advancing the sport of competitive sailing. Our 2010 European Championship set a class attendance record with 140 entrants. We possess more talent, resources, and commitment than ever before in our history.


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